Net Bytes - September/October 2000
compiled by Jean Sorensen
To Greener Pastures
Danish Elite stallion Royal Z II ( Ramiro- Aleska Z (Alme Z)
) d. June 2000 after having had surgery for a twisted testicle. He was a fabulous
jumper and has also sired several very good dressage horses.
Andalusian Stallion Embajador XI. On Sunday, April 30, Hamid
Hills Andalusian stallion Embajador XI, passed away. Embajador XI was the first-born
son of their imported Spanish stallion Embajador IX and their lovely mare, Bandolera.
Embajador is the Spanish for ambassador. He was honored as a Breyer horse representing
the Andalusian breed in 1996 and 1997.
Warmbloods In General...
The question was asked, "If a warmblood like a Trakehner or Hanoverian
can't come in dilute, but they *can* use Thoroughbred blood, and TB's come in
dilute, wouldn't it be possible to introduce a dilute gene?"
Yes, theoretically that could happen. It's likely both the German Verband and
ATA *WOULD* register a palomino or buckskin Trakehner if one was presented and
qualified. It would depends on the rules and/or preferences of the judges at
inspection. Holstein would likely have a definite problem with it. Hanover and
Westphalia probably would too. Oldenburg probably *would* allow it, also Zweibrucken.
It was then noted that a palomino TB mare who is an approved Main Mare Book
Oldenburg, is bred to a warmblood this year for maybe a palomino or buckskin
Oldenburg next spring!
Oldenburg seems to be one of the'easier-going' warmblood registries. For instance,
Hall Of Fame, who is by the purebred but not officially approved Dutch Warmblood
Art Deco and is out of a TB mare, is an Oldenburg. Although there are several
dilute (palomino, buckskin, cremello) horses out there *registered* as Swedish
Warmbloods, the Swedish breeders don't seem to like them. The cremellos are
especially disliked. Thus, Banquo was brought over here where he would be appreciated.
Note that although Banquo is registered as a Swedish Warmblood, he's not Approved
as one. He is Approved by the RPSI (Rheinland-Pfalz-Saar) in 1999. See Banquo
at: http://bwbgnosis.net/
However, the "golden" Swedish Warmbloods are accepted. In fact, Bernstein
is a dark buckskin and is one of their most popular stallions. He was originally
registered as bay (whether because buckskin is unpopular or because they really
couldn't tell) until he started siring all these "yellow" horses.
Then they changed it to buckskin (the Swedish term for buckskin gets translated
as "golden bay"). He is fully approved and is one of the leading sires.
There are plenty of palomino/buckskin approved mares, too, even a cremello.
There are a couple of Dutch Warmbloods that are palomino - Kalamino and Ferdilah
- but they are only "Registered", not "Approved", which
limits what kind of mares can be bred to them.
Samber was born in 1976 in Holland, sired by the TB Pericles and out of the
pinto DWB mare "Tina D". She was a highly rated mare both as a performer
(Grand Prix jumping) and as a dam (Ster, Preferent and Prestatie). The article
I have states that "Tina D came from the old Dutch Groningen stock, some
of which carried the pinto color".
Samber is the only approved pinto stallion in Holland. Several of his sons
have been imported here, such as Art Deco (foaled 1983 in Holland, imported
to USA sometime before 1988) and Inxcess (foaled 1990 in Holland, imported to
USA sometime before 1994) -- both tobianos. Other Samber sons that have gone
to other countries include Sambuco and Sambesi, both also tobiano, both imported
to Germany and quite popular there.
A little bit of trivia.... Art Deco (registered name is "Big Fun")
is not actually approved by the KWPN and is not "approved" or "licensed"
for breeding with them. He is "listed" as a "registered stallion"
which means that foals from regular DWB mares can be registered in the "Auxiliary
Studbook" and foals from all other mares cannot be registered at all, only
receive a "certificate of pedigree". Art Deco is approved by the Oldenburg
and ISR registries. His son, Hall of Fame (1989), is also approved by the ISR.
So, it's not correct to use Art Deco or his sons for parents of a pure Dutch
Warmblood. See Art Deco at: www.silverwoodfarm.com
The KWPN recognizes three different breed categories. The Riding horse (85%
of the total stock). Then there is the 'Tuigpaard' (Dutch driving horse). You
will see "TP" for Tuigpaard on the number. The third category is a
small group of horses representing the Gelderlander - the direct descendants
from the foundation material from which the riding horse and driving horse were
eventually generated.
The conversion of the basic stock into the modern riding horse was realized
by introducing Thoroughbred stallions, which have been used relatively frequently
in Dutch breeding, as well as some stallions from foreign breeds. The KWPN has
continued its open policy up until today. Foreign blood that will essentially
contribute to improve performance is always welcome. Dutch breeders do not just
appreciate a horse purely for its sport potential, but also for its conformation,
which should be appealing and correct. This is considered an important aspect
of the general marketability of the horse.
Saddlebreds and Hackneys can be graded into their Auxiliary studbook (by inspection)
and then when bred to an approved TP stallion, the foals can go in the regular
TP studbook. But they can't have more than 50% Hackney or Saddlebred blood.
Holland's Golden Boy was the palomino ASB stallion who was exported to be used
in Dutch sport horse breeding. Kalamino is by Holland's Golden Boy (originally
named "Denmark's Golden Playboy" ASHA 86251, a 2-time World Champion
"Golden ASB" in the US, in-hand and 5-gaited) and is out of the mare
Pigurante (Champion, Keur, Pref). Apparently Kalamino (palomino) was bred to
be a carriage horse but he didn't have the action they wanted, so he was exported
over here (lucky us!) and started showing in dressage. He won a big (50+ horses)
"suitability for dressage" class at Dressage At Devon when he was
about 4 or 5.
What is an Appaloosa Sport Horse?
A horse registered with the Appaloosa Sport Horse Association. The ApSHA will
register any horse w/ App characteristics although a non-characteristic horse
can also be registered if they have at least one colored parent and are then
bred back to colored horses. "Improvement Stallions" can also be registered
without having App characteristics.
In other words, they're Appaloosas and Apps crossed with warmbloods, bred with
an emphasis on performance in English disciplines rather than halter or Western-type
performance. The purebred Apps registered with the ApSHA are mostly foundation-bred.
ApSHA website: http://www.netrax.net/~aliasme/
How to Read a Shagya Pedigree
AA = Anglo-Arab. Be aware, that it often means an Anglo-Arabian that's not descended
from purebred Arabians (ie, it has Shagya blood in it). Anglo-Arabs with nothing
but purebred Arab blood are sometimes designated with an "x". Ar.=
Arabian. Sometimes these are purebred Arabians, but they're usually what is
referred to in parts of Europe as Arabian Race - ie, not a completely pureblooded
Arabian. Usually a Shagya. ox = purebred Arabian
Shagya X (real name ?)
532 Shagya X-3 (Ar.) (Is that actually his name?)
117 Amurath ox
Jordi (Ar.)
Bakszysz ox
139 Demeter (Ar.) (are the #s part of the name?)
51 Astarte ox
Yes, those are their real names, and yes, the numbers are part of them. Shagyas
traditionally carry on the same names as their ancestors but the different studs
sometimes name their horses the same things. There might be a Shagya X at Topolcianky.
Then the folks at Babolna might decide to name one of their horses that too
so you have to add their registration numbers on the front to tell them apart.
The Arabic numerals after the Roman ones is a way to track ancestry too, much
like Lipizzaners. In fact, Lipizzaners in Hungary and some other European countries
use the same system. In the example above, 532 Shagya X-3 is the 3rd son of
Shagya X.
Friesian Info
Letters for 2000 foals: A, B and C
Minnesota Friesians, Inc is acting as an importer for shipped semen this breeding
season from Folkert 353 and Brandus 345, both standing in the Netherlands. Folkert
has been grand champion of the world stallion show for the last two years and
Brandus was the reserve grand champion in 1999. Look for 2001 foals by these
two in the US!
FHANA is expanding their profiles of stallions at their website: www.fhana.com.
They used to just have pedigrees of stallions standing in the US, but now they're
expanding to all approved stallions, plus adding judging scores and offspring
scores. They're also adding an "inbreeding coeffiecient" service
Irish Breeds, Types and Crosses
RID: Registered Irish Draught. Purebred. Inspected and Approved
stallions and mares.
AID: Appendix Irish Draught. Inspected and Approved ¾
RID x ¼ TB mare by an RID stallion
SID: Supplemental Irish Draught. Inspected and Approved ½
RID x ½ TB mare by RID stallion out of a Jockey Club mare.
IDSH: Irish Draught Sport Horse. The IDSHR lists the following
as registration requirements:
Inspected and Approved RID x RID stallion (If this is what the owner chooses
to do)
Inspected and Approved RID x TB stallions
Inspected and Approved RID x non-TB breeding mares
Inspected and Approved RID x non-TB geldings and non-breeding mares*
Inspected and Approved RID x TB geldings and non-breeding mares*
*Non-breeding mares are when an owner wishes to register but declines to have
the mare inspected. They will enter the IDSHNA as a non-breeding mare and progeny
are eligible for registration only if sired by an Approved stallion.
Irish Draught Sport Horses are an established type with a registry (like NSHs
and Morabs) and can be called "Irish" no matter where they were bred.
In the US, a horse need only be 1/8 RID to be registered as an IDSH. Such crosses
are not only allowed by encouraged whether it be QH, Arab, TB……
The Irish Draught Horse Society has this to say about the terms "Irish
Sport Horse" and "Irish Draught Sport Horse": "When crossed
with the Thoroughbred, the Irish Draught is the basic ingredient of the Irish
Hunter and of the ideal show jumping and competition Irish Sport Horse. (In
Great Britain and North America, this is referred to as the IDSH to distinguish
it from Irish-bred horses with no ID blood).ISH: Irish Sport Horse. ONLY horses
actually bred in Ireland are entitled to the term "Irish" Sport Horse,
which is NOT the same as Irish Draught.
Irish Hunter: A type rather than a breed. Could be any number
of things but is often a combination of RID x TB. The term is used incorrectly
if the animal is NOT bred in Ireland. It's used to differentiate between a hunter
bred in Ireland and one bred in the US.
Irish Cobs and Irish Cart Horses DO have to be bred in Ireland to qualify for
the description "Irish", otherwise they are just plain ole 'cobs'
and 'carthorses'.
Question: Does that mean that an Irish draught x TB born in the U.S. wouldn't
be an Irish Sport Horse?
It would be registered as an Irish Draught Sport Horse or it could be an American
Sport Horse.
The Irish Draught Society of North American can be found at: www.irishdraught.com
and the requirement chart at: www.irishdraught.com/Registration.htm.
Straight From The Horses Mouth
This time we honor all of you lucky Raingod recipients with more info from Sue
herself!
"Raingod is an intensely linebred Gainey horse with additional Crabbet
lines. He has a "mirror-image" Gainey pedigree: his two grandsires
are both US National Champion Stallions with the classic Gainey cross, Ferzon
x Azraff daughter and Azraff x Ferzon daughter; plus his maternal granddam is
by a full brother to Ferzon. I mean, if you are a fan of this breeding (I am),
this is a *picture* pedigree -- and a "no-hole" pedigree, with known-good
horses on every line, something I feel is important for a breeding horse.
Raingod's sire, Gai Rainbow+++, was both a halter and performance champion
at the regional level. I showed his dam to a Class A halter championship and
did show her briefly in performance before her first foal. Raingod has never
been shown. He severed the front tendon on a hind leg in a freak accident when
he was about 11 months old and spent the next year+ in a stall. Although, to
his vets' amazement, he is sound, fever in the leg during the time it was in
a cast damaged one of his testicles. He *looks* like a monorchid (actually,
the damaged testicle is still "yearling sized" and resides above the
normal one in the scrotum; it is palpable, but isn't visible unless it's *rilly
rilly cold*) and monorchids are not permitted to show in the Arabian division.
(And, no, not even with a vet certificate; that's specifically disallowed).
Raingod has sired several winners. His primary legacy will probably be in his
contribution of extreme type to some of Skornoble's descendents. Skornoble has
a "fan club" who not only show his kids and their kids extensively
but have also linebred and even inbred to him with some success, so I expect
Skornoble's influence to endure for some time."
Raingod is homozygous grey! He has only 5 purebred get registered on the Arab
CD. The majority of Raingods get, like those of *most* stallions owned by smaller
farms and not heavily promoted, are part-Arabian. I was limited in the mares
I had to breed to him myself and he is a half-brother to the best mare I currently
own.
Holsteiner Naming Chart
70/93 H
71/94 I
72/94 J
73/95 K
74/96 L
75/97 M
76/98 N
77/99 O
78/00 P
79 R
80 S
81 T
82 U
83 V
84 W
85 Z
86 A
87 B
88 C
89 D
90 E
91 F
92 G
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Originally published in Bloodlines
- Volume 5, Issue 5 (September/October 2000)
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